Talk:Wikidata and infoboxes

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In case you need examples of "Wikidata-powered Template-building Fully-automated system": fr:Utilisateur:Zolo/test. --Zolo (talk) 08:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Zolo: I see from fr:Module:Infobox/Infobox universelle that the universal infobox can currently cope with people, places, and monuments. I look forward to seeing more on that list - I'm pretty thrilled that at least one major language is taking up this automated Wikidata infobox idea seriously! Deryck Chan (talk) 14:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Deryck Chan, actually real universal infobox is probably not something frwiki is going to implement in the foreseable future. But we do have are quite a few automated infoboxes with narrower scopes. Scientific topics would seem like the most obvious candidates, but in practice most automated infoboxes are about people or places (unstandardized topics that are often hard to deal with). In case it helps, I'll put a few disjoints observations on it.
  • The community requires that all data from Wikidata can be overridden by local provided in local parameters. They can also be muted by using the value "-" in the parameter. This requirement makes a lot of sense, even though it can make coding more complex.
  • Some infoboxes coded in wikisyntax, but the more complex ones are 100% Lua.
  • A Template:Universal Infobox would be hard on contributors who want to edit with template with local data, as they need to undestand what is going on, what subtemplate is called, and what paramters are exccepted. Templatedata cannot necessarily be used for that. On the other hand, I do help Wikidata/Lua will help reducing the number of infobox templates so that we have more complete, less siloed and better designed templates. And I think it is starting to happen.
  • Most Wikidata infoboxes are pre-Wikidata infoboxes that have been augmented with Wikidata capabilites, see for example fr:Modèle:Infobox Footballeur or fr:Modèle:Infobox Art.
  • The generic fr:Modèle:Infobox Biographie2 has been designed with very much Wikidata in mind. I do think it is already better than more specific infoboxes that are sometimes used instead. If an athlete becomes a politcian, we can describe both her athletic career and her political career in the same infobox. There were long-winded wikidramas over it, but things seem to have calmed down now. The infobox is used in about 146,000 articles.
Hope that helps :). - Zolo (talk) 16:45, 15 August 2017 (UTC)