Meetups/TOU

Friday August 11th, 19:30 until 21:00. In Salon 3

Terms of Use and Undisclosed Paid Editing Discussion

This time slot is for people interested in discussing issues around enforcement of our Terms of Use and options for addressing undisclosed paid promotional editing.

Agenda

Introductory discussion - what is a undisclosed paid editing?
How many paid editors post to Wikimedia projects in a given month? Let's collectively make an educated guess on the likely range.
What other options are there
- Clarifying the Check User policy
- Group of functionaries specifically to help address this

Hosts

Doc James

Smallbones

Sign up here if you are interested!

Doc James (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Smallbones (talk) 18:18, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:16, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Will try to pop by but the time isn't super convenient (unless you mean to discuss this over a drink). Popo le Chien (talk) 10:00, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Katie^talk 18:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WWB (talk) 03:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
DGG (talk) 06:00, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Checkingfax (talk) 12:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Clayoquot (talk) 08:07, 9 August 2017 (UTC) Will try to drop in for at least part of it, but I need to put my baby to bed so might not make it.[reply]
Ainali (talk) 23:42, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I hear many people say that paid editing is not a problem. There is no good estimate of how many companies use paid editing services, how many individuals provide these services, or how much time Wikipedia community volunteers invest in providing support to paid editors. I would like to hear thoughts from others, determine what data we have and what data we are missing, and make the best guess we can make about how big the paid editing problem is. Is this 100 companies a year? 1,000? 10,000? Let's see how much we agree or disagree. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:16, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How large an issue is it?

Ideas

Using G5
ORES tools
Dealing with the worst of the worst

Limiting work via Upworks
Group of functionaries